Curse

VGJustice · Jan 02, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

Why not change Orion's AI so that he casts Fire Storm first thing, and then not again? That'd make him a lot more useful, and predictable. Minus the AoE monster scatter, which kinda cracks me up.

Akhilleus · Jan 03, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

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Originally Posted by Inureface

Yea...that might be pushing it, but I bet you go D'oh when you die from SS because the guy next to you couldn't cool off for 15 seconds.

i hear you on the SS...
a few weeks ago i went to fow for the hell of it with a PUG (not something i do terribly often, since most people just plain flat out cant play the game intelligently), utilizing my (if i may say so muself) godly stance-tank build, with the book trick.
we have 2 damn good monks, 2 damn good kd eles (who actually knew how to use knockdown as a caster disruption, as opposed to beating up abbysals), a damn good r/mo interuptor/damager (uses the same fow interuption build as my ranger; cholking+tigers; concussion, distracing, barrage+judges) and myself and 2 other warriors.
the general idea is a simple one to grasp...i tank the damage, the eles do thier thing the ranger does his, the monks do theirs and the other warriors, who have a more damage-oriented build, focus on keeping wayward foes off our casters.
instead?
EVERY SINGLE TIME we hit shadows, these 2 numbnuts come rushing in with FRENZY, not flurry, not tigers...FRENZY and front-line the battle...
now, if i have to tell you why fighting numerous shadows with frenzy+ss is a BAD IDEA, you may have been one of those warriors...but in general its pretty self explanatory...needless to say they did it over and over and over and over again. so eventually i just left, and got some nasty whispers from the other guys and rightfully so, it wasnt their fault those 2 bafoons were messing it up, but i was ready to hang myself

Ristaron · Jan 03, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Alesia [Smiter Henchman] = problems solved

nasty hobbitses · Jan 12, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

The trick with Orion is to leave him in the town. But if he were to use Rodgorts invocation instead of firestom, he'd be useful. Also firestom makes a very good SHELTER SPELL if u are being overwhelmed! Maybe a strategy change is in the works for him?

Red Sonya · Jan 12, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

[I mean, just look at those Avicara Fierce -- the SOBs can spike you so hard it's scary. ]

Lol I can solo Avicara Fierce with my W/Mo, it's so easy it's pathetic. I do them every run to the troll cave and any groups of 4 I can find that only has 1 Wise and 2 Fierce and 1 Brave or 1 Wise and 1 Fierce and 2 Brave as well. It's all in the "thought" process when making a build to kill something solo. What do they do to me, how can I counter it with the least possible skills and still maintain my health.

But, on the note of Orion and Cynn, I just don't take them anymore. They both will get you into more trouble than they are worth by ending the battle sooner. I'd rather take a little longer to finish a battle than to be finished by it in a shorter period of time. When I need henchies I basically take the ranger, necro and the two monks and occassionally the messer. I leave the warriors and mages behind. The warriors can be just as deadly to a group because when I'm pulling with my bow they run forward thus increasing the agro range.

I would agree though to taking the AOE spell off of the mages, then I would take them again.

Also on that note: Henchies are made to be an alternative to grouping, they aren't meant to be your best friends.

I see an awful lot of people who want to build henchies to be superior and thus make things easier to deal with. That destroys the challenge of course and I must say as the henchies are now they do make for some careful planning and thinking, but, no zone or mission has been "impossible" while using them. Once you learn what they do use, then you build yourself around that and that's what works for me.

Shimus DarkRaven · Jan 12, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Akhilleus

nah, id much rather focus my point of anger at those morons who give us warrior-lovers a bad name...earlier today i was in a group with a lvl 19 w/mo using a hammer, who had less staying ability than the character i was using...my new level THIRTEEN w/r sword war...it makes me want to cry that a class wth so much potential is seen as nothing more than cannon fodder except by those who have been in the presence of skilled warriors and thus know what we're capable of.

Quoted for truth!

--The Shim

Red Sonya · Jan 12, 2006, 09:41 AM // 09:41

W/ME for the WIN!